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PostSubject: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:24 pm

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A lot of feminists and pro-feminist movement bloggers have discussed the indecency that is the objectification of women in the gaming industry. From Lara Croft’s unrealistic appeal to Nariko’s scantily clad ability to perform like the God of War himself, women have constantly complained without any thought or whim as to how we feel as guys within the entire situation as well. What about us? What about how developers make us men out to be a lot more than we are? Don’t you think that affects us just as negatively in society? You don’t? Well, we’re here to show you exactly what you’re missing.

Let’s start by taking it easy, by talking about one Nathan Drake. He’s as regular a guy as they come, as far as video game characters are concerned. He’s got a great sense of humor and the rugged good looks to match, so there’s plenty to like. I say we stop right there. If you’ve made any sort of regular human contact recently, you already know that Nate would stand head and shoulders above most other guys. In the boring ol’ game called Life, the funniest guys look less like Gerard Butler and more like Patton Oswalt.

Our boy Nate is no different really, despite his “every man” status. “He’s just like me!” I’ve heard some guys say. Sorry to burst your bubble, but he’s not. As far as I know, most men can’t climb sheer rock faces without the proper equipment, nor can they absorb inhuman amounts of gunfire simply by hiding behind cover for 7 seconds. Also, do you know anyone who’s blown up any helicopters using heavy artillery they found on a speeding train full of enemy mercenaries lately? No? Imagine that.

The problem also lies in the fact that if it isn’t overly rugged good looks with a badass complex being the issue, its entire male incompetence taking its place. This double-edged sword has allowed the male species to lose at every corner in the male protagonist industry. Just think about it a little. If the main character, as a male, is incapable of doing things on his own, they usually put an overly talented woman (this isn’t Cooking Mama) in the game to aid him. One such example is Ubisoft’s 2008 release of Prince of Persia.

Just take a look at Elike and The Prince for instance. The Prince is pretty much a dumbed down version of Spiderman in this game without the aid of the beautiful Elika. She’s not only blessed with the ability to heal the entire environment around us, but she’s also blessed with the talent level to prevent us from dying or from completely embarrassing ourselves as men through repeated failure. We understand that behind every great man is a great woman, but come on developers – at least make it a great man! The Prince falls short of even that. It’s bad enough that Nathan Drake’s Nolan North voices the guy (making him even more rugged), but he’s about as useful without Elika as peanut butter is without bread.

Moving right along, do you know what’s even less fair to our gender than a pussy who can’t get from point A to point B without the help of a woman? A guy that doesn’t just overachieve, but goes so far above and beyond that he makes others look dumb for even standing near him. We’re of course talking about Batman. There used to be a time when mentioning the Dark Knight in any games feature served only to make fun of his horrible, horrible games. With the release of Arkham Asylum, however, he showed men and women that he’s not an uncoordinated stiff like earlier releases made him out to be.

Since the cat’s out of the bag on the gaming front, it’s high time for a little crash course on the Dark Knight. Unlike you and me, he’s an eccentric billionaire. Unlike most billionaires, he likes to play dress-up and fight crime. When was the last time you saw a devilishly handsome billionaire on the front line? Must be a short list you got in your hands there. How are we, as men, supposed to feel when we have icons like this to measure up to? You might say, “But come on, how many people know who Nathan Drake is or The Prince, etc?” You’d be right; probably not many. However, EVERY woman knows who Batman is.

Hell, we haven’t even gotten to Solid Snake yet. Unlike Batman, he’s not swimming in pools of money. Instead, he’s the genetic clone to the greatest soldier in modern history, and is known to single-handedly defeat bipedal nuclear tanks on occasion. Wait, what? Not only that, Snake is said to have an IQ of 180 while fluent in six different languages. How many talented individuals do you know like that that don’t work for NASA? Heard of that recent NASA deployment into Iraq lately? No? Odd.

This is the problem with the gaming industry today and how developers are objectifying men in an unrealistic nature in order to sell video games. Not only that, but they’re creating representations of the sex that heighten women’s expectations of us that are just impossible to replicate. We’re never going to be a 10/10 guy who also just happens to have the underlying talent to face insurmountable, fatal odds in various situations and come out with just minor flesh wounds.

This is all getting out of hand and we’ve only touched briefly on three situations. There are 100’s of examples throughout the industry where men are portrayed in unrealistic ways and therefore giving women unrealistic expectations of our sex. It needs to be stopped. If women think they have it bad by having to watch men feed that Fat Princess cake, they have no clue at all how bad we have it.

It’s making life tough. It’s bad enough that the ratio from women to men is so unbalanced that a lot of guys out there are struggling to find dates as is, but let’s be honest, how much harder is it to net that good looking woman if she’s going out to find her own Nathan Drake but not realizing she’s going to have to settle for Zach Galifianakis instead?
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:58 pm

That was pretty funny
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:14 pm

They brought this topic up on todays Epic Battle Cry (gaming videocast on gametrailers). Its worth a listen.
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:26 pm

Idk why people think that studies about gender involve only women saying "this is not fair" scratch I can say that we DO actually study also how men are portrayed and forced to live up to some absurd masculine ideal, which include this and other things. I was going to bring down to pieces some of those examples, and clap laughing at other ones... but I thought "what the hell!" and decided to shut my mouth and say "lol"... so:

LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:52 pm

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Idk why people think that studies about gender involve only women saying "this is not fair" scratch I can say that we DO actually study also how men are portrayed and forced to live up to some absurd masculine ideal, which include this and other things. I was going to bring down to pieces some of those examples, and clap laughing at other ones... but I thought "what the hell!" and decided to shut my mouth and say "lol"... so:

LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:37 am

I bet Nathan Drake, the Prince and Batman all leave the toilet seat up though. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:30 am

And if you want true sexual equality then women need to learn how to put the toilet seat up.

Mind you most guys in the pubs I go to must be well trained, there isn't a toilet that doesn't have its toilet seat down. Course they are covered in piss cause they have crappy aim, but my point is that its got to the point where men are now the opressed ones.

WE WANT EQUAL RIGHTS TOO!

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:15 am

Reverse sexism lulz. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:31 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:05 am

Razz
MY LOGIC IS IRON-CLAD! THE GREAT SEY IS SPEECHLESS I WIN! A VICTORY FOR THE MALIST MOVEMENT! COME LADS LET US BURN OUR... What the feck do we have to burn that is a symbol of the male?

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:42 am

Smelly trainers? Thinking
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:58 am

pee stained undies, eeewwww Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:01 am

Codpieces?
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:14 am

DILDOS!
We shall burn the dildos!
They are a symbol of unrealistic expectations for women in regards to men.

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:29 am

You speak for yourself.. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:31 am

I knew you would be the one to say that. tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:39 pm

We shall burn the VIBRATING DILDOS! Because no one can do that in real life! Unless the chick has a seizure fetish.

Which would be odd.
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:06 pm

...Got that chicks number and a strobe light?

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:17 pm

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Giggity Giggity! bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:20 pm

...I think we just set the cause back...
>.>
<.<
I can haz boobz?

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:28 pm

Liam wrote:
...I think we just set the cause back...
>.>
<.<
I can haz boobz?
Delivered.

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:37 pm

*Plays with the spoiler for five minutes*

...

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a minute!

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:56 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Stop Giving Women Unrealisitic Expectations Durn it!   Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:54 pm

Awright! Awright! Calm down gentlemen - this currently fits womens stereotypes of us pretty well hehe. Back To Topic
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