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nobody
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 03, 2013 3:40 am

no way the ps4 is 600 bucks. id say no higher then 500 max
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 03, 2013 5:56 am

If it were $600 US it would be the pinnacle of arrogance on Sony's part, considering how PS3 launched to poor sales and scathing remarks concerning it's $600 US price tag.
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 03, 2013 8:38 am

That was a huge issue they had it was such a steep price for it , hopefully they make the same mistake . I will most likely wait a bit regardless of the initial price tag, the Xbox one would have to pull some sort of miracle for me to even consider it as a option after there release conference.
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 03, 2013 3:49 pm

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no way the ps4 is 600 bucks. id say no higher then 500 max

I was basing my estimate of 500 to 600 dollars on Dingos Aussie $ 899 PS4 cost. My estimate is $399 to $499 I'm basing that price on a few factors. Inflation has eroded the original price tag of around $ 600 by around 15% based on inflation rate of 2% or so a year, however the exchange rate for the Japanese Yen has dropped by 15 to 20 percent since late 2006. That pretty much evens out the inflation factor. I believe Sony learned a lesson from its high introduction price and will endeavor to keep costs down a bit this time. Still based on the possible inclusion of the, Move technology, and the computing power of the PS4 it will not be a cheap unit to make. The new controller costs a bunch more too. I'd say basic model $ 399 and deluxe model $499. It all depends on how much cost Sony is willing to eat with each unit and what is included like a game, controller or large HDD. I've seen Wall Street estimate of $350 but I think that is a little low. Hard Core gamers will be buying the first gen of the PS4 no matter what price it is. More casual gamers will start buying once the price is lowered a bit or more games/accesories are included.
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 10, 2013 10:20 pm

Figured I should post this in the appropriate thread as well.

PS4 = $399. 399 euros. 349 pounds sterling.

PS4 will support used games. No need to be always-online. No online checkups. No authentications necessary.

Multiplayer seems to be behind the PlayStation+ subscription now. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 10, 2013 10:52 pm

What gave you that idea?

Updating title, btw.

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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 10, 2013 10:59 pm

On PS+ being required for multiplayer?

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Tretton went on to say that people without subscriptions would still be able to play single player and use the media apps.

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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 10, 2013 11:22 pm

Oh, wow. Yeah. I see that now.
That kinda sucks.

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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 12:17 am

I hope it's that cheap!
I remember paying $1100 for the first pa3 that's was released that came with Rfom
Pay to play online yeh that sucks and I won't be doing that I don't think.
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 1:04 am

well its rolled into PS+ so i really dont care and it doesnt effect me at all
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 1:13 am

$5 ain't a big deal when it is rolled through PS+ as nobody said. Hey, it will probably get us a better service too, Xbox Live is well known to be a better service then PSN.
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 2:20 am

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no way the ps4 is 600 bucks. id say no higher then 500 max

I was basing my estimate of 500 to 600 dollars on Dingos Aussie $ 899 PS4 cost. My estimate is $399 to $499 I'm basing that price on a few factors. Inflation has eroded the original price tag of around $ 600 by around 15% based on inflation rate of 2% or so a year, however the exchange rate for the Japanese Yen has dropped by 15 to 20 percent since late 2006. That pretty much evens out the inflation factor. I believe Sony learned a lesson from its high introduction price and will endeavor to keep costs down a bit this time. Still based on the possible inclusion of the, Move technology, and the computing power of the PS4 it will not be a cheap unit to make. The new controller costs a bunch more too. I'd say basic model $ 399 and deluxe model $499. It all depends on how much cost Sony is willing to eat with each unit and what is included like a game, controller or large HDD. I've seen Wall Street estimate of $350 but I think that is a little low. Hard Core gamers will be buying the first gen of the PS4 no matter what price it is. More casual gamers will start buying once the price is lowered a bit or more games/accesories are included.

Yeah thats right I said $399 suckas. I am still thinking there will be a bigger HDD model maybe a different color, game tie in or some accessory for $499
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 4:24 am

I'll wait for the middle of next year. Let the usual "Roll out bugs" get sorted.

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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 5:10 am

In particular that cloud service may have a few hiccups, it is pretty ambitious !
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 6:58 am

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$5 ain't a big deal
when it is rolled through PS+ as nobody said. Hey, it will probably get us a better service too, Xbox Live is well known to be a better service then PSN.

In what way? Neutral

PS4 is now #1 on Amazon sales. DS4 and PSCam are moving up in the top 20.
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Also, yosp has confirmed that the PS4 has no region locking! Clap

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PlayStation Camera and the DualShock 4 will cost $60 each.

500GB HDD confirmed.
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 7:24 am

I don't think the Xbox live service has a lot on psn , most I hear is the cross game chat. Ps + has given almost 50 games away in the first year. Unless that was sarcasm I am confuses lol
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 8:34 am

Any word on game prices?

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I thought they announced that they will not increase
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 8:46 am

Anyone else finds the "cheap" price suspicious? Suspect
Past Playstations on launch dates have been more pricey.

Not complaining, mind you..
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 9:15 am

From the Amazon listings, it seems the prices for games will be the same as this gen.

Jaded - No sarcasm. I don't see XBLG offering a better service than the free PSN. Lack of XGC on PS3 doesn't have anything to do with the PSN being free, it was a hardware limitation. Chances are it would have been free on PS3 as it is on the PSVita. In my experience and based on comparisons, quality of online play isn't any better on the 360 just because it costs extra.

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Anyone else finds the "cheap" price suspicious? Suspect
Past Playstations on launch dates have been more pricey.

Not complaining, mind you..

Why suspicious?

I recall Sony did say they "learned their lesson" with the PS3's launch at $599. Pachter, although unreliable, estimated the bill of materials for the PS4 to be ~$275. Other people gave their estimates and it generally came out to be lower than $400.

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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 9:17 am

as long as the PS3 launches around the same time as xbox (before christmas) they should do well. the "uneducated" buyers will buy the cheaper console.

we'll have to see how xbox's hold on the market will do though. Sony messed up pretty bad with the ps3 last round and they may not be able to make up for that this time around. Given the way things have changed, Sony will have to keep hammering xbox for their "anti-consumer" etiquette if they want to get anywhere and they need to be aggressive.
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 9:32 am

PS4 launch date is sometime in November.
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 9:53 am

I may have misunderstood what you meant . I agree fully that the psn is a far better offer then xblg, they have so many discounts and free games every month it pays for itself really .
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 11:24 am

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Anyone else finds the "cheap" price suspicious? Suspect
Past Playstations on launch dates have been more pricey.

Not complaining, mind you..

Finally someone I can trust..... I anticipated the Xbox1 being pricier because it automatically includes Kinect technology. If the PS4 shipped out with mandatory Move tech it would be a bit higher. I think the "Move Ps4" will be priced around the same as the Xbox1
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PostSubject: Re: Official PS4 Discussion Thread   Official PS4 Discussion Thread - Page 6 Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 11:42 am

The "mandatory move tech" is the PSEye camera and it costs $60 by itself, so I would assume that a bundle including that would be $449 not $499, giving a couple bucks of savings.

EDIT-Unless they included a bigger hard drive, another controller, etc.
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