Well, I could play this casually and still wouldn't find it entertaining.
It's basically Uncharted 2 made by clowns instead.

Really want to do some coop, now that they fixed the treasure drop problem.
get my hands on some francis and or gengish kahn

If you need another player, I'm always up for some co-op, Jolli

For the record I haven't played uncharted in quite a while or bought any dlc. Though it's cuz after over 500 hours I've just grown tired of the basic formula. It was fun cuz it was fresh, but now I've spent so much time with it it isn't any more

Reo wrote:

If you place one hit kill weapons EVERYWHERE and don't fix the lag or the glitchy mechanics then you will have one broken game that is just like throwing the dice. You get random stuff and leave little to the actual players to play with. It's shallow and lacks depth.

Quoted for the sad, state-of-gaming-today, truth that it is.

That makes me saed...

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Edit: Yay! Fifth nation

What makes me said about the whole thing is that there are plenty of people who I am certain I can beat in a straight up gunfight but since all they use is the power weapons I don't get:
a) get the chance to test my theory
b) get kills

and those punks get like 15-20 kills because of it.....SO ANNOYING

oh, I get the difference. I don't experience this nearly as much because my gameplay style involves flanking. I generally get the 1st shot off or I get out of there. (I use invalid) so most of my fights I win before they have a chance to use those things.

This explains a lot

yeah I try to do that but sometimes there are just too many enemies for me to get it done.....fml lol

I've gotten really good at it. Which is why how well I do is entirely dependant on what maps I play. I totally dominate on the ruins and the faculty and i forget its name. Its a new one. It is very blue. Because I understand the flow of those maps so well. I'll admit most of the maps I'm not as good at, and its because I can't predict the flow of the map nearly as well. And some I'm terrible with it (like the map that's in the clouds).

This is also why I like objective games so much more than deathmatch or team deathmatch. Tdm is a very chaotic game type. And objectives give order to that chaos. Out of all the maps the only one I can get the flow of the map for in a tdm game is the ruins. And I think that is because it is a rather small map with a few spots that players tend to gather at, and has lots of back ways to those locations

Usually with me, if I die within the first minute/seconds I get frustrated and play like a retard.. making the wrong decision every god.. damn time.. . _ .
I have the same problem as Vrals, try to flank, meet a bunch of enemy's.. somehow one of them gets the first hipfire shot and kill me in one hit.. FML.. or F*** my connection..

regarding Facility I just love how it flows, I usually do good, If "IF" you can make it to the sniper spot. If you own that then its usually a peice of cake. Also its just a well designed map, with nearly identical falnking holes ? and everything is just balanced... Wished most of the maps were like that not littered with shit... and with no safe zone.

And man am I looking forward to the "New" maps, Village ? Train wreck? sign me in

I am very laid back and dont get frustrated very easily. usually when I start playing bad its because im getting bored of the game and im losing focus, so I need to take a break from it. Also i've never experienced this "i shoot them a bunch and they just trurn around and hit me once and kill me" stuff or anything like that. super laggy games aside.

I've noticed something quite interesting. Randoms will ALWAYS rush ahead on their own while people who party up tend to stick together and just assault anyone that comes in their path.

This is why I am having a much easier time in parties myself, gives me chance to go toe-to-toe with enemies instead of using my G-MAL against 2-3 guys with FAL's, T-Bolts and whatnot.

Also, I don't mind getting killed early on...as long it's NOT by hipfire+melee or lag. If it's any of those 2 I might as well turn the game off.

The thing is, I can go way positive if I want to, it's just a matter of flanking or camping.
But you have to play cautiously and you won't get as many kills as the aggressive player and by playing cautiously with 4 reckless randoms, you are bound to lose the game with a 5-6 kdr, sometimes even higher. I'd rather win the games than to have a high kdr.

Can't wait for the the next patch, I hope ND soon realize that people are giving up on this game and tries to listen to their remaining fans.

I have notice when you get teamed with a 4-Man party you tend to get left out, you may get a win, but its kinda hallow, when you don't get as many kills or encountering the enemy team that often.

If you try to stick with them, they kinda resent you.. In a way, I have gotten verbally abused just for the fact that I picked up the sniper in facility and once by taking a spot next to my teamate - . - , then getting killed by three grenades thrown at me by my team mates.. And getting triple pumped, Just to add insult to injury. (doesn't happen very often though just bringin up an example why some randoms choose to leave the pack)

Also I can usually be positive in this game, I have a pretty decent aim, But.. And it is a very, very big but. The connection between players is F****** awfull, and It F**** up my game if I get teamed against brazilians or iranians and even norwegians.. in my own country with shitty connections that make me lag when I get close to them or aim at them.

The thing that drove me from this game the most is the connection issues, this game chews up the internet like somekind of fat sloth demon from hell.

Reo kdr isn't everything. Just because you have the highest kdr does not mean you should win.

More Importantly:

Thats true, kdr isn't everything, its a frosting on the cake things, more satisfing knowing you destroyed the opposting team.

nobody wrote:

...Also i've never experienced this "i shoot them a bunch and they just trurn around and hit me once and kill me" stuff or anything like that. super laggy games aside.

Have you ever heard the expression that starts, "If you're not part of the solution..."?

Lag has always been a huge factor in online gaming, since the start it has always been known that lagging helps you avoid damage packets hence the invention of the 'Lag-switch' early on in gaming history. Today's connections are constantly being interrupted by several different ways, with the increasing use of wireless tech in the home, TV's, 'Phones, iPads, security alarm systems, they are all capable of connecting via the internet and taking bandwidth up. Add on the increasing reliance of ISP's on 'trafficking' measures during peak times and even with your Ps3 hardwired you can still suffer when other links in the network chain 'borrow' chunks of your signal.

That's why game designers have jumped on the perk system lately, IMHO... Taking the importance away from 'twitch-shooting' means less feelings of being cheated when it doesn't go your way, it's understandable that an opponent had a great game when you see them get a load of killstreaks, not so if they go 33-2 using just their standard loadout weapon.

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My veiw on perks.

Also, they are only making lag worse by having P2P connection, it makes it so unstable and unreliable. Making the game more frustrating than it should be.

nobody wrote:

Reo kdr isn't everything. Just because you have the highest kdr does not mean you should win.

Did I even claim anything along those lines?
Re-read my post because you obviously got something way wrong....

My point was that if you play cautiously and do well, you are still bound to lose because it takes longer for you to get kills then if you go out looking for people like a headless chicken.
By the time you are going like 12-1, the rest of your team has already somehow managed to get killed 49 times together.
Now, if I had 4 teammates who played like me, we would win pretty much every game.

That's how it was during Uncharted 2 when I played with Endlo, Vash, Leo, Raist, Silver, Charlitos and others.

We usually had an equal amount of kills and usually a total of 10 deaths altogether, tops.
So I would like to say that the guys with the best teamplay should win, the guys with the highest (un-inflated) kdr should win, but sadly thats not the case.

The guys with the cheapest loadouts and worst connections wins the games. And that's why I stay away from this game atm.

@leo I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm saying it having never really happening to me is probably a factor as to why I don't have as much of an issue with u3 as some people do.

@reo let me reword what i meant. Team deathmatch is about getting more kills then your opponent. But it is also called TEAM deathmatch for a reason. If you work as a team and or are put on a team with other good players that always helps

Also (and this is a serious question) when you are put on a team with team mates that do that do you ever use your mic to communicate with your team and try to get some team work going (even if no one else has mics) or do you just play solo as well, and hope for the best?

And you complain about this in u3, but isn't this true of any online shooter?

Well, it might be for other shooters, but I have never seen a game with so much lag and faulty game design like this one. It feels like as if ND wanted to focus on features rather than a solid foundation in terms of gameplay. Might impress people at first, but it's not a game that lasts for long.

And I do bring out my mic fairly often, just too bad that people with KSA, BRA, MEX, JPN or similar often don't understand a word in English. Also, I figure you should have the common sense to not rush into a room where you just saw 3-4 enemies or ruin a perfect flanking opportunity by firing ONCE and then hide again.....might just be me though.

I'm aware of the fact that it's called TDM, but I can't be expected to follow every guy that rushes into bad situations and try to save their butts. And if you have 2-3 players constantly waiting to respawn, you'll find yourself fighting a 1-2 vs 5 game.....

I dunno, it just feels as if ND wanted a game where ANYONE can get kills, despite skill level.
Like I mentioned in an earlier post, it leaves little to the player.
I'm fairly good at strafing, flanking and aiming. I'm decent at reading the game and position myself in an advantageous position.
But when I engage enemies with one out of millions of one hit kill weapons, it just makes me lose all hope for a match where players battle it out, like they said it would be with the increased health.

Not even in Uncharted 2 do you die as fast as in this game and people complained about that alot.

But like I said, if you can enjoy the game - good for you.

Wow I start playing SWTOR more and that is when this thread comes back to life, sucks for me, I'm going to be away for a week or so so I won't be able to get on the PS3 at all, cya guys after I get back lol

I redeemed my online pass for this game a while back and tried out the co-op. I was expecting the same horrible experience I had while playing the beta, but I was pleasantly surprised.

I'd be willing to play co-op some more (I've only tried a story-mode so far) and I should have free time next week if anyone's game.

I would be game, if I was around that is lol

Vrals597 wrote:

Wow I start playing SWTOR more and that is when this thread comes back to life, sucks for me, I'm going to be away for a week or so so I won't be able to get on the PS3 at all, cya guys after I get back lol

you didn't miss much. Mostly just a disagreement between me and reo