I'm eating my own words about the Shotgun lab. It's crazy fun and easy to rack up kills (and unfortunately, very easy to get killed yourself).

Also, I hit 52 today, so I finally have a useful negative. Half health takes some getting used to, but I can imagine how much easier the game will seem when I stop using Invalid - it'll seem like I have twice the health I used to... which, technically, I will.

There couldn't be a better lab The reason for this is that I just last night hit 59, knowing that to accomplish my goal of getting to level 60 by the end of June, I need to pick up a good amount of cash each day. And this lab is perfect for such a thing. I just rock invalid/come get some. It is easy to get at least 5 kills with any booster combo, let alone packing a pistole all of the time. Made a million today already, hopefully might get more later on

So let me get this straight: Shotty Lab = Lots of $?




And welcome to the forums, Static

hell ya charlie..ive been using invalid and bandoleer and Ive been capping every match ive got 300k till 57 man they need to make this a permanent feature..lol only thing ive noticed is more people are using the pistol than the shotty.

This shotgun lab is fun but the thing that really annoys me is that nobody seems to use a negative in it, shocking, not really, I've used Juggler/Come Get Some to some great effect in it and I tried using Invalid in it but it got very annoying with the pistole aimers just one shotting me from like ten feet away, almost treating it like a FAL or Sniper Rifle

the LAB has so much lag
or my GF internet just sucks balls

-Dj- wrote:

the LAB has so much lag
or my GF internet just sucks balls

Or maybe both? I always find that to be the case, combination of both

Sounds like people are having a blast with the lab. Wish I could try it out. Ahhh well. Enjoy guys!

Riast, everything is only half as fun playing without you as it is playing qwiith you, btw fml has become my catch phrase now, I think I said it like 20 times last week, stinking group work, gonna put out another RDR video anytime soon? Your first three were pretty funny, and as usual informative

I give up. I can't keep up with this thread anymore.

Slogging through singleplayer Hard atm.

Good luck on the Platy

You can do it Azira!

I'm loving the shotty playlist so far. I was pistoleing at the beginning, but now I'm rocked From the Hip/Half loaded and it's working to great effect I've gotten a few triples and several BBQs today. Nobody expects them, and they're a lot easier to get.

Oh, and shotty mosh pits FTW!

I've been rocking Treasure Bearer for the pro BBQs.

It's definitely a lot of fun, so far. Train Wreck seems to have this mutual understanding that everyone just throws down in the middle. So odd.

I find that there is one spot on every map where all of the action takes place, very easy to get double downs and triples, even though I have yet to get a triple but have gotten close a few times!

Here's an expiriment for someone to try. Put on the Booster than increases pistol accuracy (Down The Irons but for sidearm guns) and go into the lab and use the pistole. But the key is not to blindfire it. AIM IT! Now it sounds like you know where people gather so instead of going in balls out, camp it a bit because one of the ND developers once told me that the pistole has rediculous STUPID range with that booster combo. So potentially that could allow you to get kills from a bit more of a distance. The key though is to AIM the pistole, not blind fire it Let me know how that works plz!

Stellazira wrote:

Slogging through singleplayer Hard atm.

Yeah, you can do it!

I just followed up my Hard playthrough in a day with doing the same to Crushing. Good times, although I'm a bit exhausted now
Some parts of crushing brought out the worst in me though....


Now I just need to do some good ol' treasure hunting and the Plat is soon to be mine!

Haven't marathon-played a game like this since the days of a certain Final Fantasy VII.
Uncharted 2 is another masterpiece


As soon as I get my hands on Marco and Genghis/Djinghis I'll get back rocking Invalid/HL like there's no tomorrow!

Platinum & the magic X symbol - here I come!

Raistlin wrote:

Here's an expiriment for someone to try. Put on the Booster than increases pistol accuracy (Down The Irons but for sidearm guns) and go into the lab and use the pistole. But the key is not to blindfire it. AIM IT! Now it sounds like you know where people gather so instead of going in balls out, camp it a bit because one of the ND developers once told me that the pistole has rediculous STUPID range with that booster combo. So potentially that could allow you to get kills from a bit more of a distance. The key though is to AIM the pistole, not blind fire it Let me know how that works plz!

I was trying this earlier today, actually. It didn't work for me, I don't know why. Maybe I just wasn't aiming well enough

Raistlin wrote:

Here's an expiriment for someone to try. Put on the Booster than increases pistol accuracy (Down The Irons but for sidearm guns) and go into the lab and use the pistole. But the key is not to blindfire it. AIM IT! Now it sounds like you know where people gather so instead of going in balls out, camp it a bit because one of the ND developers once told me that the pistole has rediculous STUPID range with that booster combo. So potentially that could allow you to get kills from a bit more of a distance. The key though is to AIM the pistole, not blind fire it Let me know how that works plz!

I've actually tried this on the Sanctuary some time ago.
People thought I was cheating since there obviously was NO WAY I could get them from that distance
Same thing goes for shotgun, not as crazy range as Pistole, but still surprisingly good.

Raistlin wrote:

Here's an expiriment for someone to try. Put on the Booster than increases pistol accuracy (Down The Irons but for sidearm guns) and go into the lab and use the pistole. But the key is not to blindfire it. AIM IT! Now it sounds like you know where people gather so instead of going in balls out, camp it a bit because one of the ND developers once told me that the pistole has rediculous STUPID range with that booster combo. So potentially that could allow you to get kills from a bit more of a distance. The key though is to AIM the pistole, not blind fire it Let me know how that works plz!

I tried aiming the pistole yesterday and though I know its effective, thanks to your Plundering with a ND video on YouTube, obviously, I found out that there is a good way to avoid pistole aimers, just run side by side, if you want to use Sure Shot I would recommend also using Fleet Foot to counter those using the running technique to avoid you, I stopped aiming the pistole due to that, maybe I'll try this out if I get on later along with CGS, doesn't really matter to me because its pretty easy to die without CGS as it is

Vash and I were testing From The Hip and Sure Shot yesterday. The pellet spreads are still pretty similar, even at some pretty solid distances. Overall, they seemed to do little to control the erratic nature of the spreads.

With that said, that's exactly how we've been approaching this lab, being campy with aimed Pistoles. It's been really effective, and running Situational/Bearer amuses me, and apparently upsets others.

Endloslung wrote:

Vash and I were testing From The Hip and Sure Shot yesterday. The pellet spreads are still pretty similar, even at some pretty solid distances. Overall, they seemed to do little to control the erratic nature of the spreads.

With that said, that's exactly how we've been approaching this lab, being campy with aimed Pistoles. It's been really effective, and running Situational/Bearer amuses me, and apparently upsets others.

I feel bad for whoever has to play against you two, you make everyone your poor guinea pig, can't say I blame you guys for testing different stuff out, always have to improve somewhere, nobody is perfect

We try to test stuff independently, when we can, to avoid affecting our performances in matches. At some point I'll have to try it in-game, to better understand how the auto-targetting system works. Still largely a mystery.

As for the booster set-up now, I find it amusing how people react to Bearer, or Situational in cases where it had zero bearing. I can't say it's not gotten me "free" kills, but it's largely just another tool to gather information with. I still have a camera, I still use sound, and recognize player habits, too.

Yeah, I have to admit that you, Vash, and Raist have all helped me to improve at this game, I actually check for sounds, where my teammates are etc. now thanks to Raist and you and Vash have pushed me to try new weapon combos/go back to weapons again, I think that the only time I would ever use SA would be in a plunder match on The Facility or any of those maps where someone could easily have some one shot kill weapon and hiding right by the treasure spot or DM on The Fort because although you can listen to sounds there are those who can see you and will retreat to the back of the spawn points, I'll do that sometimes but not always

I actually have to do some testing myself for deciding which boosters to use at 60, I've limited it to Evasion, Sure Shot, Down the Irons as my top and Sure Foot (probably not going to bother testing it), Fleet Foot, Bandoleer, and Keep Firing as my bottom, I already know my Elimination ones, Evasion/Sure Foot, just not sure about the boosters I will use for everything else yet

Now people run around all together in one group of the ENTIRE TEAM.

if only someone could glitch the thing and get an RPG, instant Wipe Out and Five Not Alive, or get lucky and get five shotgun kills