I agree with you there, nobody

I think if they went 1st person it would kill one of the best aspects of the UC series.

Oh totally, it actually makes character customization worth the time it takes to do

I'll be honest. To me it looked like an over emphasis on co-op. That plane sequence looked sick but co-op isn't my thing. Maybe that's just the development stage they're at but I hope they don't just ignore MP. I know they won't but still.

I feel bad. I'm less excited about this game the more I think about it...

The treasure system of rewarding people is like a scrub way of punishing those who CAN'T run and gun excessively because of our connections. Make the game with no lag and you won't have to alienate your players ND.

I'm confident that with only 3 layers for emblems that no one is going to make anything unique (sorry for calling it an emblem if that's not what it's called. COD calls it an emblem and COD is pretty much the gold standard in the industry). Really think about it and tell me if you think you can make your emblem idea with three layers. Even if they had a hundred shapes it's irrelevant because you won't use a hundred with only 3 layers.

I must say I'm interested in the kickback rewards (lame name that should be changed ASAP). I honestly can't wait to find stuff that's "overpowered" and "gay" just to spam the hell out of it. This ties in with the new weapon customization too. Same story really.

Does anyone have any info on what boosters will be in the game?

They didnt show ANY co-op stuff. It as all MP. but they were showing off the new 2v2v2 mode so it may of seemed like co-op

also check page 31 I think thats the page that had a large list of boosters

"Someone posted (it) on the ND forums."

I wouldn't take that for more than what it is.

I'm also with Raist on this one , I would rather they fixed the basic issues and added new maps instead of adding a ton of stuff and not putting enough focus on basics . I also don't want many urban settings , I like the deserted old temples , jungles , mountains , islands and the odd village , I think that's what uncharted is about . I'm still getting it no matter what but we shall wait and see .

Get back to your vacation Mitch!

Look at my nation blog fawlty for that stuff ! . Just watched a ton of YouTube so I'm fairly up to date on gaming methinks . Unfortunately ps3 games are area coded . I must preorders this !!!

Mitchellkillgour wrote:

I'm also with Raist on this one , I would rather they fixed the basic issues and added new maps instead of adding a ton of stuff and not putting enough focus on basics . I also don't want many urban settings , I like the deserted old temples , jungles , mountains , islands and the odd village , I think that's what uncharted is about . I'm still getting it no matter what but we shall wait and see .

IMO in order to fix a lot of the problems with MP they need a total revamp of the MP, which is exactly what they did

The only crippling problems are:

-Lag
-Spawns
-Matchmaking

All of which have to do with behind-the-scenes issues, and would likely only require better programming.

The only annoyance inherent in the game mechanics is that some of the Boosters are completely useless.

Spawns are only partially behind the scenes, if you design new maps with spawns taken into account, you can greatly cut back on the spawn issues.

So far, I really like the look of the Cloaked booster. I was thinking about how that would affect performance while I was playing today. I realized how much having no Player Arrow would help. You would be like a ghost in some scenarios. It is like Walk Softly and a variation of Evasion put together.

I heard that PS Plus members get to play Uncharted 3 Multiplayer BETA Demo early than other PSN members, good thing im already a member

shiyera wrote:

I heard that PS Plus members get to play Uncharted 3 Multiplayer BETA Demo early than other PSN members, good thing im already a member

its june 28th for those with PS+ and those who buy infamous 2, and its july 5th for everyone else

Lol still not getting PSplus. I'd rather get in with infamous 2 because i'm getting it anyways!

I think that ND is rather smart about their stupidity. Personally I think that they are just fighting to get back the people who defected to COD. They are choosing to do this by changing everything around. They want people to think "It's completely different, so it HAS to be better than that steaming pile". For the most part this is going to work.

I'm not saying that the game is going to suck MP wise I'm just saying that I'm not excited or impressed right now. We'll see.

BTW everyone have a good 4/20?

Getting in on this.
even though I do think they are getting in over their head with everything, I think it will still be good. Only thing I'm not looking forward to is the THREE VERSIONS of SA

s1lv3r4554551n wrote:

Lol still not getting PSplus. I'd rather get in with infamous 2 because i'm getting it anyways!

I think that ND is rather smart about their stupidity. Personally I think that they are just fighting to get back the people who defected to COD. They are choosing to do this by changing everything around. They want people to think "It's completely different, so it HAS to be better than that steaming pile". For the most part this is going to work.

I'm not saying that the game is going to suck MP wise I'm just saying that I'm not excited or impressed right now. We'll see.

BTW everyone have a good 4/20?

I dont think that they think it sucks. Also I dont think they did it to draw in the CoD crowd. I bet they were just thinking what else can we do to make this better/more complete MP experience. Customization is one of the 1st things that comes to mind, plus theres the fact the CoD is the #1 online shooter, so it would be smart to draw from that

Static-Star1 wrote:

Getting in on this.
even though I do think they are getting in over their head with everything, I think it will still be good. Only thing I'm not looking forward to is the THREE VERSIONS of SA

none of which is nearly as over powering as SA

but its still annoying that they are still keeping SA basically. They're catering towards noobs again. The only thing that would make it more catering towards noobs would be the damage levels.

I was intending to buy infamous 2 anyway so nice bonus . Oh , and I see what you guys mean , that was a pretty meaningless post then .

Notice I said defect. That means basically to leave (in this case the Uncharted franchise, in favour of a more popular one). I never really implied that ND was attempting to draw in the CoD crowd, even though EVERYONE is trying to do that because that's 1 billion dollars a year that isn't going to other developers. : )

I think that the way they are approaching it, in a more death=reward method, is really going to make the bad players bad and the good players good. For example say six of us from the nation party up and stomp some 11 year olds digital faces in and that activates that "power play" (another name not thought out). Our job is going to get harder but they're still not going to have much of a chance. We'll just play like we did when we had negatives on in U2, smart. We get really good at it and they constantly rely on those death rewards. I can definitely see this polarizing the community skill-wise instead of doing what ND intended it to, which is to make scrubs and good players happy.

They should just say f**k it and copy as much as they can from CoD. The only reason CoD seems to be bad is because of the ungrateful and, most of all, vocal community that cries about things that are good instead of quitting or growing two brain cells and using it.

Until I actually play this I have to reserve judgement. Here's hoping I can enjoy it and adapt, yet keep an open mind and not be 100% attached to what UC 2 was. We shall see....

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but its still annoying that they are still keeping SA basically. They're catering towards noobs again. The only thing that would make it more catering towards noobs would be the damage levels.

Every other death, having 8 seconds from the time you spawn to see where players are has nothing to do with catering to n00bs, that ability is clearly intended to do 2 things, first is let you know where to head to for the action, and secondly to help prevent you from getting spawn killed, as you'll be more aware if someone is right next to you when you spawn.

Not sure what other boosters were like SA that you were talking about

s1lv3r4554551n wrote:

Notice I said defect. That means basically to leave (in this case the Uncharted franchise, in favour of a more popular one). I never really implied that ND was attempting to draw in the CoD crowd, even though EVERYONE is trying to do that because that's 1 billion dollars a year that isn't going to other developers. : )

Ah, when you said "fighting to get back..." I mis interpretted that.

I think that the way they are approaching it, in a more death=reward method, is really going to make the bad players bad and the good players good. For example say six of us from the nation party up and stomp some 11 year olds digital faces in and that activates that "power play" (another name not thought out). Our job is going to get harder but they're still not going to have much of a chance. We'll just play like we did when we had negatives on in U2, smart. We get really good at it and they constantly rely on those death rewards. I can definitely see this polarizing the community skill-wise instead of doing what ND intended it to, which is to make scrubs and good players happy.
Its not meant to be something to relay on. its just something to keep things interesting when its obvious that 1 side is totally dominating the other, and its not the only game to do that either. (cant remember which game it was that did it.)
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I have faith in the naughty dog team. I think their taking into account the previous audience and any changes to cater to a wider audience will be easily adaptable. Just wait and see i guess